Category: Let's talk
Recently a new law has been passed on men, guilty of inflicting domestic violence on their partner. If the man shows genuine remorse he will escape prosecution.The instigators of this law have failed comprehensively to grasp the nature of DV, apologising is a fundamental psycholoical tool used by the abuser to justify his behaviour, he blames the violence on his partner,in turn making her too frightened to question his often suffocating controlling behaviour.. I am dismayed at the disregard shown to groups working with victims of abuse, and their work is not always limited to women.
I am dismayed as well. Are there any shivlerous men left in the world, or are they all control freaks who get off on beating women?
I bet some of those abusers are mighty fine actors, so they can fake remorse and then go right back to the behavior once again. Makes me angry, tell ya the truth, and this so-called law seems to be nothing more than something that looks good on paper or a token gesture than anything else. I'm not sure what can break an abuser of such an addictive habit, but legislation sure ain't gonna do it in my book.
I agree. This law is deplorable. And most womeh have already accepted apologies and taken the man back a number of times before they finally get the guts to try to get away and prosicute.
Labyrinth the best are worthy of an oscar, and I completely agree with everything you said, unfortunately these men would rather sever their gentils with a blunt instrument, than voluntarily ask for the necessary help. Captain there are very few and as women become the more powerful sex, the resentment and hatred of these inadequate creatures,is set to increase.
this is so true, so many times did i see my mother walk back to my father after he appologised for all the harm he had caused her...unfortunately, what on earth can we do? if these women keep allowing themselves to be abused and continue the circle, there's not a lot we can do to help them.
what concerns me is the fact that so many children go off and marry someone who is like their father, this is because it's what they know and believe they deserve. it's scary that sometimes this can continue throughout generation after generation.
Loui I agree and maybe the answer lies in giving women who might just make this dreadful mistake,a taste of what they will endure, in a controlled enviroment,working with them to improve their self esteem to a level where they feel self confident,self aware and are able to choose what suits them.
Oh my god! Goblin, have you any idea how bloody unethical your proposition is? I'm utterly shocked at you! Would you put yourself through such a thing if the tables were turned?
I think he would honestly. I also think domestic abusers should be shot i if mymoms husband (the fucking cock sucking bastard() had been shot then he wouldnt of almost killed mama. And he wouldn't have had a chance in the world of marryin her cause he beat his first wife killed someone and raped a girl what the fuck is this world comin too
First off Jeni quit the southern accent jaws doesn't sound any better then Jennifer Lopez tried to do in the film I just watched. Second, The mai problem with this law isn't just that a man can get himself off, excuse that pun, but that women may as well lose credibility. If Joe hits me, apologizes, he gets himself off. I have the courage leave, I meet Mike. He beats me, again he gets away with nothing. The more people I meet who end up beign likethis, the sooner the police will say hey listen, even if that girl comes in with bruises, we shouldn't do anything about it.
First off Jeni quit the southern accent jaws doesn't sound any better then Jennifer Lopez tried to do in the film I just watched. Second, The mai problem with this law isn't just that a man can get himself off, excuse that pun, but that women may as well lose credibility. If Joe hits me, apologizes, he gets himself off. I have the courage leave, I meet Mike. He beats me, again he gets away with nothing. The more people I meet who end up beign likethis, the sooner the police will say hey listen, even if that girl comes in with bruises, we shouldn't do anything about it.
ohh yes if all else fails bring out the guns how constructive not..the answer lies in prevention, by spotting the cause and effect of deep insecurity in adolescence, and helping that person to realise their self worth,instead of leaving it until the behaviour has become entrenched in adulthood.
ohh yes if all else fails bring out the guns how constructive not..the answer lies in prevention, by spotting the cause and effect of deep insecurity in adolescence, and helping that person to realise their self worth,instead of leaving it until the behaviour has become entrenched in adulthood.
i hate to tell you all this, but goblin has a point, despite the idea sounding slightly like something the waynderful wangel would come up with. the reason so many people put up with domestic violence is simply because they are adverse to change and also that they are not strong enough to to change, because it's easier just to go on the way things usually are.
reverse psychology is often used, and quite affectively, in most schools when in any anti bullying programs so why wouldn't it work here?
however, i think that a program put in place in highschools would be best, teach while they are young that this is not the only way to live. also improvements in the social services field are in order for this to work.
You hate to tell them that's different from what I hear in private.
I frankly think we should shoot the son-of-a-bitches, that'll teach 'em a lesson. Oh well, what if there were mitigating circumstances: as there are always are? Well, we should shoot them too (can't have too many complications).
<In case some of my redneck cousins out there didn't get it, I was being facicious.
And, if you don't get it too, bang!
Bob
lol...hahahahahhaha.
that's good.
ok, i'd like to appologise for the thoughtlessness of my first post to this topic.
i'd like to firstly point out that goblins' idea is actually far from anthing that wangel would come up with, simply because it displays common sence, which is an area in which our good friend wayne can often be found wanting.
secondly, my first post was in no way an attack on you at all goblin, i actually really like the idea, i was meerly hoping to point out that it made so much more sence. i wasn't thinking and my phraising was poorly chosen.
i'm sorry for the seemingly two facedness of it.
Accepted hows
Accepted how's Edinburgh.
i'm no longer in edinburgh. but i'd give anything to be there. i loved it so so much.l if i could live there i would.
it was beautiful and the people were so friendly.
they even held a memorial service for aussies in the castle because of anzac day. it was beautiful.
This law like all lenient laws is passed because prisons are apparently too full. The way to deal with domestic abusers is to jail them for at least 10 years, and only let them out after that time if they pass an assessment which seaks to measure the likelyhood of them reoffending.
well, this jailing of such offenders would bbe possible if our prisons had less of a population of people who don't need to be there.
lets say if certain drugs would be legal, then there would be loads of space that would suddenly become available.
however we can put this theory in place in other ways and we find that it takes the humanity out of life.
lets just say that we were to stop treating all the mentally ill that didn't want treatment.
all of a sudden you now have beds free in mental hospitals, you can afford to subsidise more drugs, there are easily spaces available in counciling and therapy groups. things would be better for those who want help. it would be easier to get treatment.
however,at what cost?
sure, these people don't want treatment, but they're not capable of making a conscious decision. who are we to judge based on the idea that we are all knowing? because, i have some news for you, we're not!
if we were to make more room in our prison systems then others who may need as much help to get off these drugs and make something of themselves may not have the chance to change or see the light. because in many situations, this is what it takes.
like it or not, it's time that the victems themselves were taught to take a little of the responsebility for themselves. especially since they may not be able to come to the decision themselves.
sitting in the bucket of shit is fine. it's warm, it's comfortable, you can slosh around in it, throw it on others, but at the end of the day all you're doing is avoiding the situation. not getting the help or realising that you need it.
i know lots of people think there needs to be better ways of punnishing these people, but it's time we realise that in situations involving domestic violence it's often the case that these victems will not always help themselves. it's often the case that we must bne a little cruel to be overly kind.
if the methods we currently use don't work, it's time to investigate using different ones.
I agree, Goblin. Appologizing ... its just to get her back! Just to keep her with him, and then, a few days later, he'll do it again!! So, I don't agree with the new law either.